(Paper version of Swarajya, May 2016)
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While Swarajya has published articles exposing how Marxist historians
hound peers who disagree with them out of academic institutions, we have got
news from different sources that you are finding it difficult to get employed
even in Belgium. Is it true? If yes, what precisely is the objection of your
detractors? Can you name the people who have raised objection to your
appointment in a Belgian university? Did you receive regret letters from
Belgian academic authorities, explaining why they couldn’t appoint you? Did
they communicate verbally to you why they thought you were unemployable?
After giving
this matter some thought, I have decided against offering much detail here. Firstly,
I am not privileged to know the details of decision-making instances that lead
to my own exclusion. Even if sending an official “regret letter”, they would
not give in writing the real reason behind their decision (as anyone
experienced with job applications knows).
Secondly,
eventhough no law was broken, going into this still has the character of an
allegation, and that requires proof. Some cases of deliberate exclusion or
disinvitation were simply obvious, but my standards of proof are higher than
that. Thus, recently I missed an appointment at a Belgian university and in that
rare case I was unofficially but fully informed of the details by an insider
(of course I was vetoed for reputedly being too embroiled with Islam criticism),
but now that this crown witness has died, it would only be my word against
theirs; which would not be good enough. So, I simply want to close this chapter.
Let’s not bother, everybody has his problems, and these career hurdles are
mine. In fact, I have had quite a bit of luck in my life, including help from
individual Hindus whenever the need arose (air tickets paid, hospitality etc.),
so any fussing about this boycott against me would be disproportionate. Let’s
just assume I missed those opportunities because I was not good enough. Or
because of Karma, whatever.
The topic in
general is important, though. The Leftist dominance of the Humanities
departments in India, often amounting to total control, results from the wilful
and systematic “ethnic cleansing” (to borrow Madhu Kishwar’s term) of any young
scholar suspected of pro-Hindu sympathies. Exceptions are the people who
entered on the strength of ideologically neutral work, or of initially toeing the
line, but coming out with pro-Hindu convictions only after getting tenure.
This cleansing
of enemies stems from the old Marxist mentality: a war psychology treating
everyone with a different opinion as an enemy inviting merciless destruction;
and a boundless self-righteousness rooted in the belief of being on the forward
side of history. As an ideological wave, Marxism is waning even in India, but
that attitude is still rife among the anti-Hindu forces, both in India and
among Western India-watchers.
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We refer to the established
historians in India as Marxist historians, not to their knowledge because they
look at this country through the Marxist lens of “class conflicts”. You refer
to them sarcastically as “eminent” historians. Please explain your choice of
words.
“Eminent
historians” is what they call one another, and what their fans call them. When
they don’t have an answer to an opponent’s arguments, they pompously dismiss
him as not having enough “eminence”. So when Arun Shourie wrote about some
abuses in this sector, he called his book Eminent
Historians. It is also a pun on an old book about prominent colonial-age
personalities, Eminent Victorians.
“Eminence”
in this case refers to their position and relative glory. The Communists always
made sure to confer position and prestige, as opposed to the Sangh Parivar,
which fawns over people with position but doesn’t realize that those people
have only acquired their position by toeing the anti-Hindu line. In a way, you
have to concede that the Left has honestly fought for its power position. Half
their battle was already won by the Hindu side’s complete absence from the
battlefield.
One example
of the Sangh’s ineptness at playing this game. In 2002, the supposedly Hindu
government of AB Vajpayee founded the Chair for Indic Studies in Oxford. The
media cried “saffronization” and, as usual, portrayed the BJP as a wily party
fanatically committed to Hindu causes. However, the clueless time-servers at
the head of the BJP nominated a known and proven opponent of Hindu Nationalism,
Sanjay Subrahmaniam, who thus became the poster-boy for “saffronization”. This
way, they hoped to achieve their highest ambition in life: a pat on the
shoulder by the secularists. That pat on the shoulder, already begged for so
many times, remained elusive, but the tangible result was that they too had
conferred even more prestige on an “Eminent Historian”, all while denying it to
their own scholars (if any).
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What would you tell your peers who
say that the “Out of India” Theory (OIT) is a fringe theory?
Of course
it is a fringe theory, at least internationally, where the Aryan Invasion
Theory (AIT) is still the official paradigm. In India, though, it has the
support of most archaeologists, who fail to find a trace of this Aryan influx
and instead find cultural continuity. As for the situation abroad: most scholars
assume the invasionist paradigm, but only
very few also argue in an informed manner for the invasionist theory, not many
more than those who argue against it. But anyway, this “fringe” aspect doesn’t
impress me at all. When Copernicus put the sun rather than the earth in the
middle of the solar system, he was in a minority of one, very “fringe” indeed;
but he won the day.
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What is the evidence against the
Aryan Invasion Theory?
First of
all: that there is no evidence in its favour. Archaeologists have spent a
century of well-funded excavations for a trace, any trace, of the Aryans moving
into India. Even the invasionists concede that “as yet” no such thing has been
found. The new genetic evidence, while still immature, generally goes in favour
of emigrations from India and, while leaving room for immigrations too, is
emphatically failing to pinpoint an invasion coinciding in time with the
hypothetical Aryan invasion.
Meanwhile,
the written record emphatically points to an emigration scenario. That the
Iranians lived in India and had to leave westwards is reported in the Rg-Veda,
a text thoroughly analysed and shown to support an “Aryan emigration” by
Shrikant Talageri. It can equally be deduced from the Avesta. Even earlier migrations
are mentioned in the Puranas. These are of course very mixed and unreliable as
a source of history, but it is a bad historian who discards them altogether.
Their core, later fancifully embellished, consists in dynastic lists. Keeping
that ancestral information was the proper job of court poets, and they devised
mnemotechnical tricks to transmit it for many generations. In this case, it too
does convey a basic scenario of indigenousness and emigration.
Finally,
there is the linguistic evidence. Many Indians believe the hearsay that it has somehow
proven the invasion. It hasn’t. But permit me to forego discussing those data:
too technical for an interview.
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Of late, the Marxist historians have
revised “invasion” to “migration”. They say that there might not have been a
war when the so-called Aryans arrived here, but they have no doubt that the
ancestors of today’s north Indians, especially the upper castes, by and large
migrated from central Asia into India. In other words, the Marxists say that we
Indians were originally not Indians—invasion or no invasion! Does this
“revision” satisfy you?
Exasperated
at not finding a visible trace of this invasion, conformist scholars have
theorized an alternative that doesn’t require such visible remains: a migration
under the radar. Often, when they try to give details, they still mean a
military invasion rather than a gradual migration, since they bring in the
military advantage of horses and chariots to explain how such a large and
civilized Harappan population could be overrun by a handful of outsiders.
But even if
they genuinely mean a migration, it still amounts to the same scenario as an
invasion, viz. the Vedic Aryans came from abroad and the natives took over the
language and religion of the intruders. So, anyone who thinks that the
migration theory is a breakthrough away from the invasion theory really shows
he doesn’t understand the issue. “Migration” effectively means “invasion” but avoids
the burden of proof that the more dramatic term “invasion” implies.
To be sure,
it doesn’t much matter who came from where. The so-called adivasis (a British
term coined in ca. 1930) or “natives” of Nagalim in the Northeast have settled
in their present habitat only a thousand years ago; which is fairly recent by
Indian standards. So, ironically, they are genuine “immigrants” or “invaders”,
yet no Indian begrudges them their place inside India. Many countries have an
immigration or conquest of their present territory as a proud part of their
national myth: Madagascar, Romania, the Siberian part of Russia, Hungary, Turkey,
Sri Lanka, Pakistan, etc. If the Indo-Aryans, or indeed the Dravidians
(theorized to have come from Iran or even Central Asia), had really immigrated,
that would then have been a pre-Vedic event, at least 3500 years ago, and that
time-span ought to have been enough for integration into the national
mainstream.
So this
Homeland debate ought to have been a non-issue, only of interest to ivory-tower
scholars. But different non- or anti-Hindu forces decided to politicize it.
Abroad, these were the British colonialists, White supremacists in the US and
Europe, and among them the Nazis, who considered the AIT as a cornerstone and
eloquent illustration of their worldview. Inside India, first of all the
Christian missionaries, then followed by the non-Brahmin movement, the
Dravidianists, Nehruvians and Ambedkarites, followed in turn by their Western
supporters. The AIT was used to break up Indian unity and pit upper castes
against lower castes, non-tribals against tribals, and North-Indians against
South-Indians. After this massive politicization, the partisans of Indian unity
finally decided to give some feeble support to the fledgling Out-of-India
Theory (OIT). Yet, scholars rejecting the OIT because of its alleged political
use have no qualms about espousing the AIT, politicized since far longer, in
many more countries, and not as a pastime of a few historians but as the basis
for government policies.
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On the one hand, the unaffiliated or
apolitical Indian student loves your theories; your passages are quoted widely
in debates on ancient Indian history. On the other, you do not seem to get
along well with the so-called right-wing historians of this country either. You
have written a blog against them. Please comment.
Well, I
have nothing but good to say about some Indian researchers, both naturalized
ones like Michel Danino and natives like Meenakshi Jain or Srikant Talageri.
But then, there are others too. Certainly the name PN Oak rings a bell? In the
second half of last century, he spread all these theories that the Taj Mahal
was a Shiva temple; that the Kaaba was built by Vikramaditya as a Shiva temple;
that the Vatican (originally the Roman “Poets’ Hill”) is really “Veda-Vatika”;
that my mother tongue, Dutch, is the language of the Daityas (demons), etc. The
bad thing is that numerous Hindus have run away with these stories, and even
some NRI surgeons and engineers of my acquaintance believe in diluted versions
of the same. In a less extreme manner, this disdain for historical method is
widespread among traditionalist Hindu “history-rewriters”. They frequently put
out claims that would make legitimate historians shudder.
Many of
these rewriters thought that with Narendra Modi’s accession to power, their
time had come. I know, for instance, that many of them have sent in proposals
to the ICHR. None of these was accepted because they ignored the elementary
rules of scholarship. Any student writing a thesis knows that before you can
develop your own hypothesis, you first have to survey the field and assess what
previous scholars have found or theorized. But these traditionalist
history-rewriters just don’t bother about the rest of the world, they are satisfied
to have convinced themselves. Their horizon is not larger than an internet list
of like-minded people.
In itself,
it is no problem that their knowledge and method leave much to be desired.
People can learn. Unfortunately, they are too smug to do that. They actively
misinform Hindus by claiming that the Aryan Invasion Theory has long been
discarded. They also do a lot of harm to the bonafide historians with whom they
get juxtaposed. So it is true that I have lost patience with them.
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Since the Narendra Modi government
came to power in 2014, has there been an effort to revise the subject of Indian
history in academic curricula, which, many in India believe, is politically
motivated? Has the Government of India approached you with the request of being
a part of any such initiative? If yes, how is the project going?
No, there
has been no such request at all. However, I myself have sent in an application
to the Indian Council of Historical Research, but that has run into technical
difficulties, mainly to do with my foreign passport. So, the situation is and
remains that institutionally, I have nothing to do with the Indian history
scene.
The version
of history taught by the Nehruvians was politically motivated. The feeble Hindu
attempt to counterbalance this (“saffronization”) in ca. 2002 was confused and
largely incompetent. Humbled by this experience, the BJP today is not even
trying to impose its own version. Contrary to the Nehruvians’ hue and cry,
allegations about the BJP’s interference in history-teaching or more generally
in academe are simply not true.
Here we are
only talking of changing some lines in the textbooks, and even that seems a
Himalayan effort to the BJP. Yet, what is really needed is a far more thorough
overhaul. Except for some scholars without any power, nobody is even thinking
about this very needed long-term job.
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If no, could the reason be that
RSS-affiliated historians and you are not particularly fond of each other and
this government is influenced by the Sangh?
Any
Sangh-affiliated historians would not need me to arrive at their positions or
to devise a policy if called upon to do so by the present Government. But
again, I am not aware of any governmental interest in correcting the distorted
history propagated by the Nehruvians. I would welcome it if it happened, but so
far the BJP, still begging to be recognized as “secular”, only has its eye on
“development”.
I am happy
to report that there are some as yet insignificant private initiatives, though.
Once they achieve results, there will be more to say on them.
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Would you say or agree that the
Government of India, regardless of the political party that runs it, would be
uncomfortable appointing or commissioning an academic who is perceived as being
anti-Muslim?
Certainly. Though it never had any problem with
anti-Hindu candidates to even the highest post. Long ago, it even managed to
appoint to the chair of the Constitution Commission, no less, a man who had
expressed his outspoken aversion to both Hinduism and Islam: Dr. BR Ambedkar.
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Does the genesis of your problem
with anti-left historians in India lie in the fact that on the issue of Babri
Masjid, if you do not agree with the left, you do not agree with the right wing
either? If it is something else, please explain the problem.
On Ayodhya,
there has never been a conflict with any non-Left historian. To be sure, I have
my disagreements on some minor points, but they have never been the object of a
controversy. So: no, on Ayodhya I may have minor and friendly differences of
opinion with “right-wing” historians, but no serious quarrel. In that debate,
the long-standing quarrel has been with the Eminent Historians, their
supporters in media and politics, and their foreign dupes. They were on the
wrong side of the history debate all along, and it is time they concede it.
In the case
of the Eminent Historians, it is also time for the surviving ones to own up
their responsibility for the whole conflict. The then PM, Rajiv Gandhi, was on
course towards a peaceful settlement, allotting the site to the Hindus and
buying the militant Muslim leadership off with some typically Congressite
horse-trading. Not too principled, but at least with the virtue of avoiding
bloodshed. It is the shrill and mendacious declaration of the Eminent
Historians in 1989, amplified by all the vocal secularists, that made the
politicians back off.
Not only
have they falsely alleged that no Rama temple ever stood on the contentious
site: their more fundamental lie was to bring in history at all. Ayodhya
belongs to the Hindus not because it was their pilgrimage site a thousand years
ago, nor because of “revenge” for a temple destruction effected eight hundred
or five hundred years ago, but because it is a Hindu sacred site today. No Muslim ever cares to go to
Ayodhya, and in spite of being egged on by the Eminent Historians, enough
Muslim leaders have expressed their willingness to leave the site to the
Hindus. This whole controversy was unnecessary, but for the Nehruvians’
pathetic nomination of the Babri Masjid as the last bulwark of secularism.
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If all the archaeological findings
from Ayodhya are arranged chronologically, what story of the disputed plot of
land comes to the fore? Did a temple of Lord Rama stand there, which Babar’s
general Mir Baqi demolished to build the mosque? Or, did Mir Baqi find ruins on
the spot, which were a mix of a dilapidated Muslim graveyard and remains of a
temple of an even older generation?
That a
Hindu temple was demolished by Muslim invaders is certain, on that we all
agree. But there is less consensus around, or even awareness of, the fact that
this happened several times: by Salar Masud Ghaznavi in 1030 (the rebuilt
Rajput temple after this must be the one of the excavated pillar-bases), by
Qutbuddin Aibak’s troops in 1193, and by Mir Baqi on Babar’s behalf in 1526.
What it was
that was replaced by Babar’s mosque, is not fully clear. I speculate that in
the rough and tumble of the collapsing Delhi Sultanate, Hindus had managed to
take over the site and started worship there eventhough the building they used
was a mosque imposed on the site. That was exactly the situation in 1949-92,
and I think it also applied towards 1526. Babar destroyed a Hindu pilgrimage
centre, a Hindu presence at the site, but not the Rajput temple from the 11th
century of which the foundations were excavated in 2003.
Was the
temple’s demolition just an odd event, or was it the necessary materialization
of an ideology, repeated many times and in many places? When Mohammed Shahabuddin
Ghori and his lieutenants conquered the entire Ganga basin in 1192-94, they
destroyed every Hindu temple they could find. Only a few survived, and that is
because they lay out of the way of the Muslim armies, in the (then) forest,
notably in Khajuraho and in Bodh Gaya. But all the Buddhist universities, all
the temples in Varanasi etc. were destroyed. Ayodhya became a provincial
capital of the Delhi Sultanate, and it is inconceivable that the Sultanate
regime would have allowed a major temple to remain standing there.
So, the
narrative propagated by the Sangh Parivar, that Babar destroyed the 11th-century
temple, cannot be true, for that temple was no longer there. When Babar arrived
on the scene, Hindus may have worshipped Rama in a makeshift temple, or in a mosque
building provisionally used as a temple, but the main temple that used to be
there, had already been destroyed in 1193. See, Ayodhya’s history becomes more
interesting once you discard the lies of the Eminent Historians as well as the
naïve version of the Sangh Parivar.
The
controversial part lies herein, that the persistence of the temple all through
the Sultanate period would have implied a certain tolerance even during the
fiercest part of Muslim rule. In reality, the demolition of Rama’s birthplace
temple was not an odd and single event, but a repeated event in application of
a general theology of iconoclasm imposed by the Prophet.
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Was it a temple of Lord Vishnu
rather? Or, were they quite a few temples of one or more deities built in
different periods by different kings?
In her book
from 2013, Rama and Ayodhya, Prof.
Meenakshi Jain has detailed all the scholarly evidence and the debate around
it, including the embarrassing collapse of the Eminent Historians’ case once
they took the witness stand in Court. She shows that the Rama cult has already
left traces more than 2000 years ago. Attempts to make Rama worship a recent
phenomenon were just part of the sabotage attempts by the Eminent Historians.
Also, the site of Ayodhya, though probably older, is at least beyond doubt
since Vikramaditya in the 1st century BC. All indications are that
the disputed site was already visited by pilgrims as Rama’s birthplace since
well before the Muslim conquest.
So, this was
a long-standing pilgrimage site for Rama. Against the utter simplicity of this
scenario, anti-Hindu polemicists of various stripes have tried all kinds of
diversionary tactics: saying that Rama was born elsewhere, or that the temple
belonged to other cults. This Vishnu-but-not-his-incarnation-Rama theory, or
the claim of a Shaiva or Buddhist origin, came about as some of those
diversionary tactics; they are totally inauthentic and artificial. Alright,
among historians we can discuss every possible hypothesis. But from the very
relevant viewpoint of Islamic iconoclasm, all these distinctions don’t matter:
all those sects were false, leading men astray, away from the one true
religion, and therefore they all, and certainly their idols and idol-houses, were
to be destroyed.
·
Whatever be the story, which
community do you believe has a greater right of ownership over that disputed
site?
The
community that holds the site sacred. Muslims go through all this trouble to
travel to far-away Mecca, why don’t they go on a cheap and easy pilgrimage to
Ayodhya instead? It seems they have made their choice. So let us respect their
choice, and also the choice of the Rama worshippers who do care for Ayodhya, by
leaving the site to the latter. Case closed.
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Do you hate Muslims or Islam?
No, I do
not hate Muslims. They are people like ourselves. Having travelled in Pakistan
and the Gulf States, I even dare say I feel good in Muslim environments. And if
I desire the liberation of Muslims from Islam, that is precisely because I like
them. Suppose you discover that a friend of you still believes in fairy-tales:
wouldn’t you consider it your duty to set him straight and confront him with
the true story, precisely because he
is your friend?
But then, perhaps
the writer of the Quran “hated” the unbelievers when he wished them godspeed to
hell.
And I do
not “hate” Islam either. If a teacher uses his red pencil to cross out a grammatical
mistake in a pupil’s homework, we do not say that he “hates” the mistake. He
simply notices very dispassionately that it is wrong. The use of the word “hate”
in this case stems from an attempt to distort the debate and misrepresent the
argument by means of emotive language. The belief that someone heard the word
of God, dictating the Quranic verses, is just one of the many irrational and
mistaken beliefs that have plagued mankind since the beginning.
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You have been on record saying at a
function in Goa in late 2014 that a general impression must be created that
being a Muslim is “uncool”! Representatives of some Islamic countries
reportedly walked out of the venue in protest of your statement. Would you
explain what happened at that event?
We had been
given to understand that it was going to be a Hindu thinkfest where the only
constraint on our free discussion was going to be the truth. Satyameva jayate!
The offer of first-class airplane tickets (which I refused as unnecessarily
luxurious) should already have alerted me to a different agenda: a glamorous
diplomatic show. Arriving on-site, and seeing some high-profile Muslim guests
from West Asia (what were they doing at an “India Ideas Conclave”?), I proposed
the organizers to change the topic from what I had been invited for: the roots
of religious terrorism. Thus, an evaluation of the BJP Government’s record from
the angle of its Hindu reputation seemed to me an excellent topic that as yet
no one was scheduled to talk about. But no, they insisted I talk about the
roots of Islamic terrorism, then colourfully illustrated by the frequent video
reports of beheadings by the Islamic State, apart from the more usual bomb attacks.
Even when I warned them that I was not going to parrot the diplomatic white lies
churned out by Obama and Cameron (and, very recently, in my presence, by
Narendra Modi speaking in Brussels), viz. that jihad “has nothing to do with
Islam”, they still persisted.
So they got
what they had bargained for. I detailed the justification for all of the IS’s
actions from the Quran and the Prophet’s precedents. The reaction of the Hindu
audience was very warm and enthusiastic. Finally someone who didn’t try to
shift the blame to the victims, as the Nehruvians always do. A few foreigners
were not so happy, and neither were the BJP organizers. They had preferred a
diplomatic lie to the truth, so I had spoiled their show, intended to prove how
nice and “secular” those ugly Hindu Nationalists really were.
On the
panel there was also the advocate of “moderate Islam”, Sultan Shahin. I liked
him as a person, and I also understand that the stand he took was risky. For
Muslims, it is more dangerous to stray from the orthodox line than for
non-Muslims to even criticize Islam. I have to knock on wood here, given the
attacks on the Satanic Verses
translators and the Danish or French certoonists, but still Kafirs (Pagans)
have more leeway than Muslims who risk being treated as apostates. So, I
concede the bravery of “moderate Muslims”. But all the same, they are wrong. They are probably being truthful when they
swear that they themselves would never countenance such terrorist violence. But
that is because of their normal inborn human feelings, not because of (but
rather, in spite of) their later conditioning by Islam. They try to reconcile
their human tolerance with the religion they have been taught by their beloved
parents. It is humanly understandable, and I sympathize with them, being myself
an apostate from my home religion, Catholicism. But alas, I cannot spare them
the difficulties inherent in outgrowing your native religions. And I can testify
that the end result is worth these steps on the way.
As Taslima
Nasreen has said: “What the Muslim world needs is not moderate Muslims but
ex-Muslims.”
Making
Islam uncool? I have been part of a massive walk-out from the Church. For
intellectuals, the decisive reason was the dawning insight that Christian
belief was irrational. But for the masses, it was mainly that it was no longer
cool to be a believer. People started feeling embarrassed for still being
associated with this untenable doctrine, and are none the worse for having left
the beliefs they were brought up in. I wish Muslims a similar evolution, a
similar liberation. I do not wish on them anything that I have not been through
myself.
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How do you view the recent terrorist
attack on Belgium? To what extent is migration from Islamic countries
responsible for terrorism on European soil?
As Ché
Guevara said, a Guerrilla fighter is among the masses like a fish in the water.
In this case, the Jihad fighters had found safety and comfort in the Muslim
community. So the demographic Islamization of some neighbourhoods in Brussels
(due to our own silly policies) has indeed played a role. But I expect you to
retort that there were also other factors, and that is true.
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How do you react to the Muslim
refrain that the terrorists in their community are a creation of America and
NATO’s flawed foreign policy and interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya,
Syria, etc?
It is simply
not true that Ghaznavi or Aurangzeb took to Jihad and iconoclasm in reaction to
British colonialism or American bombings. They were inspired by an older source,
viz. the Prophet’s precedent, Islam. However, it is true that many contemporary
Jihad fighters have indeed been fired up by a specific circumstance, viz.
Western aggression against Muslim countries.
Assenting to Quranic lessons about Jihad is one thing, but actually volunteering for the frontline of Jihad it quite another. In most people, it needs a trigger. The illegal invasions of Iraq or Libya, or footage of an Afghan wedding bombed from American jets, provided such a trigger. I am very aware that being bombed is just as unpleasant for wedding guests in Kandahar as for commuters in Brussels or Mumbai. Right now, even little Belgium has five bomber planes in Iraq as part of the US-led war effort against IS. These bombers must already have killed, along with some Jihad fighters, more civilians than were killed in the terrorist attacks in Brussels.
Assenting to Quranic lessons about Jihad is one thing, but actually volunteering for the frontline of Jihad it quite another. In most people, it needs a trigger. The illegal invasions of Iraq or Libya, or footage of an Afghan wedding bombed from American jets, provided such a trigger. I am very aware that being bombed is just as unpleasant for wedding guests in Kandahar as for commuters in Brussels or Mumbai. Right now, even little Belgium has five bomber planes in Iraq as part of the US-led war effort against IS. These bombers must already have killed, along with some Jihad fighters, more civilians than were killed in the terrorist attacks in Brussels.
In Belgium,
I have drawn some attention with my defence of the Syria volunteers: young
Muslims grown up in Brussels or Antwerp and going to fight for the Islamic
State. Our politicians call them “monsters”, “crazy” and other derogatory
names, but in fact they are pious idealists. They may be misguided in their
beliefs, and I dare say they are, but they do have the courage of their
conviction. Without any pressure on them, they volunteer for putting their
lives on the line in the Syrian desert. You cannot deny them bravery and
self-sacrifice.
The Western
invasions and bombings in Muslim countries have brought nothing but misery, and
I have opposed them all along. What the Muslim world needs, is not more civil
wars, sectarian wars, foreign military interventions, which all serve to
polarize the minds, to freeze them in existing antagonisms. What it needs is a
thaw. Here again, I speak from my own experience: the post-war climate of peace
and prosperity in Europe has allowed a genuine cultural revolution, an emancipation
from the stranglehold of Christianity. The Muslim world will only evolve if it attains
a modicum of peace and stability.
Note that
the military interventions have nothing to do with Islam criticism, nowadays
slandered as “Islamophobia”. On the contrary. Without exception, all the
politicians ordering interventions in Muslim countries have praised Islam,
calling it “the religion of peace” that is being “misused” by the terrorists.
Not a single word of Islam criticism has ever crossed their lips. A legitimate
Islam critic like the late historian Sita Ram Goel has never harmed a hair on
the head of a Muslim. Islamophiles such as these politicians, by contrast, have
killed many thousands of innocent Muslims.
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How would you advise Indians to
fight terrorism?
Security measures and repression are not my
field nor my favourite solution, but I understand that sometimes they are
necessary. So I want to spare a moment to praise the men in uniform who risk
their lives to provide safety. However, this approach won’t go very far and won’t
provide a lasting solution if it is not accompanied by a more fundamental
ideological struggle. That is what I am working on.
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