tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post2929946627501239253..comments2024-03-21T00:42:18.535-07:00Comments on Koenraad Elst: The monkey under Patañjali’s yokeKoenraad Elsthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02503713923882807510noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-74811018550290550732016-04-07T07:27:48.027-07:002016-04-07T07:27:48.027-07:00Every product of Patanjali is safe and nice qualit...Every product of Patanjali is safe and nice quality. <br /><br /><a href="http://metaphysicsuniversity.com/ums-program-overview/metaphysical-degrees-credentials/" rel="nofollow"><b>Metaphysics degree</b></a><br /><a href="http://metaphysicsuniversity.com/" rel="nofollow"><b>Metaphysical university</b></a><br /><a href="http://metaphysicsuniversity.com/" rel="nofollow"><b>Metaphysical school</b></a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-71780012240737253782010-08-13T03:29:37.963-07:002010-08-13T03:29:37.963-07:00Sir you are required on Twitter. Please participat...Sir you are required on Twitter. Please participate and comment on current affairs and Hinduism there. Real time captive audience awaitTruth Always Winshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12477546223812218587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-38828136968323932882010-08-08T02:29:38.812-07:002010-08-08T02:29:38.812-07:00Today's Hinduism follows the format of Adi Sha...Today's Hinduism follows the format of Adi Shankaracharya, and is almost exclusively based on Vedanta. Its influence so great that we Hindus have mixed Vedanta into non-vedantic systems such as Sankhya and Yoga, but which are compatible with Hindu thoughts. It is beneficial to look at Patanjala Yoga as a separate system just as Nyaya and Vaisheshika are instead of superimposing later day concepts on Yoga of Patanjali.<br /><br />About LV's comment that Yoga of Patanjali is influenced by Bhddhist, it may not be that certain. Though Yoga sutras we have now is of later date, Yoga system itself is much older than Buddhism. The notions are found in Brihadaranyaka Upanishad.Gururaj B Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964816448433835494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-70390708233428227822010-07-21T17:40:38.580-07:002010-07-21T17:40:38.580-07:00Personally, I think Chip Harnranft's translati...Personally, I think Chip Harnranft's translation is the best. It rescues the YS from Vedantin and theistic misinterpretations and acknowledges the heavy Buddhist influence:<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Yoga-Sutra-Patanjali-Translation-Commentary-Shambhala/dp/1590300238LVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11250134167270126842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-19963780163037481042010-07-21T06:52:57.845-07:002010-07-21T06:52:57.845-07:00There’s plenty of yoga and meditation literature b...There’s plenty of yoga and meditation literature by practitioners that provide detailed maps of stages in self-observation.<br /><br />In a small booklet called Alternative States of Consciousness, Daniel Goleman has rigorously described a 7-stage process of Buddhist meditation with 4 “rational” and 3 “super-rational” stages in a Self-observer’s journey.<br /><br />The first 4 stages as I remember are:<br /><br />1. Initial (on an object of contemplation)<br />2. Access (to the object)<br />3. Merger (with the object)<br />4. Bliss.<br /><br />The next 3 stages are:<br /><br />5. Infinite space(or emptiness)<br />6. Infinite consciousness.<br />7. Neither perception nor non-perception.<br /><br />I find the study believable and fascinating.<br /><br />The Niyamas (Shaucha, Santosha, Tapa, Swadhyaya, Ishwarapranidhan) are not considered separate, but the same thing in its different aspects. In some teachings, the practitioner is told to observe just one Niyama, and she will realize that it covers all the others!<br /><br />The problem for atheists is the word Ishwara. The etymology of Ishwara is beyond my competence, so take the following with a pinch of salt. Ishwara is another name for Existence itself. By yoking oneself to all Existence, the practitioner achieves Self-realization.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-14750754183258830612010-07-18T02:07:04.931-07:002010-07-18T02:07:04.931-07:00Thus, “Īśvara” is defined merely as..., but has be...<i>Thus, “Īśvara” is defined merely as..., but has been assigned the exclusive meaning of “God/Shiva”, nowadays assumed in the expression “Īśvarapranidhāna” </i><br /><br /> By whom? Obviously you can't expect a vEdAntin to analyze these things from a historian's perspective, because the vEdAntin takes his/her belief system (based on the so-called <i>aptavAkya</i>) for granted and only builds history upon those assumptions. Thus to a vEdAntin the gItA-view of sAnkhya and yOga is more authentic than the original sAnkhya and yOga texts themselves.Sandeephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16876160384936501586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-17775819571108414992010-07-17T19:39:38.842-07:002010-07-17T19:39:38.842-07:00>>>"The Gītā is a blatant instance, ...>>>"The Gītā is a blatant instance, with Krishna imposing his presence as object of devotion on chapters named after (and giving an otherwise fair summary of) godless philosophies like Sānkhya."<br /><br />If you'd notice, those words are preceded by "Shri Bhagavan uvacha", which means that it is not Sri Krishna the person who is talking, but the self-realized <i>yogi</i>, the person who has realized himself as "<i>aham brahmasmi</i>", that is giving the realized knowledge. <br /><br /><i>brahma</i> is defined as qualityless, formless, eternal, infinite, all pervading. In <i>veda</i>, realized sage also says "<i>aham brahmasmi</i>". It is not to be misconstrued that the formless, qualityless <i>brahma</i> suddenly collapsed into the form of the <i>rishi</i>.<br /><br />>>>"At some point, a theistic coup d’état has eclipsed the godless schools of thought and written them out of the record."<br /><br />This is incorrect. The so called 'theism' and it being separate from original characteristic of <i>yoga</i> is the result of incorrect understanding by western minds.<br />'Theism' or 'atheism' or 'pantheism' or 'henotheism' were never separate in <i>bharatiya samskriti</i>. Creating separation and divisions is western characteristic.<br /><br />In <i>bharatiya parampara</i> 'theism' is one path, indistinguishable from the others, that leads to realization. <br /> Adi Shankaracharya not only gave <i>advaita ventanta</i> commentaries of <i>veda</i>, he also worshipped <i>murti</i>, he installed the <i>murti</i> of Mookambika Devi at Kollur and sang "<i>bhaja govindam</i>". <br /><br />It is western characteristic to brand people and caricaturize them later to suit selfish interest. Such tendency can never be correctly applied to <i>bharatiya vichaar dhaara</i>.<br /><br /><i>namaste</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com