tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post343997857919564319..comments2024-03-21T00:42:18.535-07:00Comments on Koenraad Elst: Genetics and the Aryan invasion debateKoenraad Elsthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02503713923882807510noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-34465168139741100822020-08-04T21:32:11.344-07:002020-08-04T21:32:11.344-07:00I have written full review about the book Aryan in...I have written full review about the book Aryan invasion myth in my blog here <br />http://www.acharyareviews.in/2020/08/review-aryan-invasion-myth-by-al-chavda.htmlcharan acharyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12524182907106687852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-45275295409608152212018-11-15T06:55:26.795-08:002018-11-15T06:55:26.795-08:00Dear Koenraad Elst,
Can you respond to the points...Dear Koenraad Elst,<br /><br />Can you respond to the points raised in<br /><br />https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-out-of-india-theory-oit-challenge.html<br /><br />ThanksVanamalihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10732378977117692952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-52810594022569483632017-09-09T07:16:01.222-07:002017-09-09T07:16:01.222-07:00Dr. Elst, I was recently reading early history of ...Dr. Elst, I was recently reading early history of Russia. And it is said that Russian state was formed by Scandinavian invaders called Varangian "Rus" and that name "Russia" was derived from them. <br /><br />I find this eerily similar to Aryan Invasion Theory. I personally find arguments against this theory more convincing and it seems that Varangian Invasion Theory and Aryan Invasion Theory have the same agenda to prove that two great cultures are not built by the natives but by outsiders. I would like to know your view on the subject.<br /><br />RegardsSagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169149307827255913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-1112988965689949832017-07-29T21:20:42.812-07:002017-07-29T21:20:42.812-07:00Sir,
Genetic studies are really moving at incredi...Sir,<br /><br />Genetic studies are really moving at incredible pace and are people are taking positions based on genetic studies.<br /><br />May I request you to kindly look at this post ( where this post is also linked) and maybe post a new blog about your thoughts.<br />http://eurogenes.blogspot.co.ke/2017/07/the-out-of-india-theory-oit-challenge.html?m=1<br /><br />Riteshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09425884030405313628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-36891678837228369992017-07-26T09:51:42.180-07:002017-07-26T09:51:42.180-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Milin Patelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11903369568792692109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-59957837866051956812017-07-12T00:17:14.538-07:002017-07-12T00:17:14.538-07:00A great population movement did take place in Indi...A great population movement did take place in India around 2000 BC.<br /><br />But this was not a migration from outside into India. <br /><br />It was dispersal of population from Western India into Northern, Central, Southern and Eastern India due to drying up of Sarasvati river and desertification of Western India around 2000 BC. Western India, a fertile well watered area which supported a huge population suddenly became incapable of supporting large human population and thus mass movement of populations began WITHIN India. <br /><br />This was the end of 'Indus' Valley civilization.<br /><br />I think reason for the higher percentage of Haplogroup R1a among upper castes is not invasion from Central Asia, but dispersal of population from Sarasvati basin due to aridity. Since these people were superior to rest of Indians in cultural terms, it stand to reason that new comers from Sarasvati basin would have conquered and dominated the new lands and intermarried into the local elites. <br /><br />We know for certain that Ganga-Yamuna Doab was the easternmost limit of Harappan civilization and so they knew this area well indeed. And further more, since Ganga-Yamuna Basin is the adjacent to what was once Sarasvati Valley, it stands to logic that a migrant from Sarasvati Valley would opt for an area more familiar to him rather than Peninsular India which is more distant and unfamiliar. This should explain why R1a Haplogroup is more prevalent in North India than in Peninsular India.<br /><br />Now some physical anthropology facts:-<br /><br />Reality is that genetics have not come up with anything that physical anthropology has not discovered. Speaking in terms of physical anthropology, Indian population is a mix of Caucasoid and Australoid physical types - corresponding to Ancestral North Indian and Ancestral South Indian of genetic studies. Caucasoid type is subdivided into Mediterranean and Alpine Races - former coming from West Asia and latter from Central Asia. Well, genetics also agree that a population did come from West Asia and another from Central Asia (though admit that Central Asian origin is disputed in genetics). But these migrations which shaped what is now Indian population took place after 7000 BC and before 5000 BC - much before the so called Aryan Invasion Theory, splitting up of Proto-Indo European into many languages and composition of Vedas.Sagar Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10366138017961737186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-53345957401046385132017-07-11T23:42:53.403-07:002017-07-11T23:42:53.403-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sagar Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10366138017961737186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-48978693692327146872017-07-11T04:24:57.456-07:002017-07-11T04:24:57.456-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.lotus india holidayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11931172141655117147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-70864602668699419372017-07-07T22:32:10.134-07:002017-07-07T22:32:10.134-07:00Hindu society can certainly be proud of the great ...Hindu society can certainly be proud of the great depth to which its spiritual indic culture pervades its minds and has happily resided their for centuries in spite of so many foreign invasions and constant mutilation by the influx of a militarily superior monstor. Now we can proudly claim that we are not a society which gives up all its delicate yet comprehensive ancient thought process, well integrated in our very breath and forming a rich socio-cultural complex, in lieu of self appointed prophets and their ridiculous revelations. THIRDEYE108https://www.blogger.com/profile/08334074323734032536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6138082354348831474.post-52362619073051890332017-07-01T04:36:31.525-07:002017-07-01T04:36:31.525-07:00These politically biased pseudo-scientific theorie...These politically biased pseudo-scientific theories involving a guessing game from genetics, which is highly inherently speculative due to trying to use the genetics of modern people in a land which has seen countless invasions over millennia, are laughably trite to say the least. The word desperate comes to mind as well. This is because those few people outside of Hindu true believers who care about any of this are far outnumbered by the Hindu true believers, and they know it. <br /><br />Therefore they try to stack the deck in their favor whenever they can more and more as time goes by and less and less people on the AIT side still exist or care. What keeps them going is for the most part money. The few remaining politically motivated fanatics who are trying to change the prevailing winds are given money with hopes of their being able to convince with their pseudo-scientific theories the right ears within the "bona fide" educational systems in order to pressure the AIT to be taught at the least at the university level as unquestionably true and any theory opposing it as politically biased fantasy meant to help push neofascist agendas in India.<br /><br />Where is that money coming from? My guess is it comes from politically motivated types who would like to undermine as much as possible the Hindu support of anything resembling Hindu leadership of India by undermining Hinduism. I don't mean necessarily non-Hindus who fear some sort of actual neofascist Hindu government, but more likely simply the political opposition who depend on riling up that fear in the moneyed elite of whatever persuasion. But the handwriting it on the wall regardless of their fading dreams of reducing the impact of Hindu beliefs, and as that knowledge sets in there will be less and less heard from them. Especially since the real science is not and has never been on their side.Vrajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06535159097241083544noreply@blogger.com